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PostPosted: Jul Thu 17, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjay07 wrote:
seriously, i have no idea what the dual channel you are talking about ...

and thing is its my study laptop, so not much is going on, and if i could hold on to it for another 3 or 4 years, i would happly upgrade it by then (and SSD too!!!!).


Dual-channel means that you double your data throughput to and from your RAM.

Its like going from a 1 lane road (single) to a 2 lane road (dual), more data can flow using dual-channel. As long as its a matching pair of sticks, and your motherboard supports it, it can run in dual-channel mode.
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PostPosted: Jul Thu 17, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDR2 ram is double data rate as it is... so if you have your ram running at 667 your actually getting 667 x 2 in a single stick of ram...

DDR3 would be 667 x 3 in a single stick but those speeds get even higher...

anyways when you stick in your ram and its in a dual channel mode with DDR2 your really getting... 667 x2 x2 which is all running at a speed of 667... really now a days its not the ram as a bottle neck but the way a cpu handles it all with the front side bus
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PostPosted: Jul Thu 17, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outragexl10 wrote:
DDR2 ram is double data rate as it is... so if you have your ram running at 667 your actually getting 667 x 2 in a single stick of ram...

DDR3 would be 667 x 3 in a single stick but those speeds get even higher...

anyways when you stick in your ram and its in a dual channel mode with DDR2 your really getting... 667 x2 x2 which is all running at a speed of 667... really now a days its not the ram as a bottle neck but the way a cpu handles it all with the front side bus


I know that, i'm just saying that if he plans on upgrading the ram why not go ahead and get the benefit of dual channel. and your absolutely right, bottle neck mainly takes place at the CPU, but if you have the ability then why not use it. Not much you can do about bottle necking at the CPU that comes from a CPU running 1600mhz on a mobo that can only run 1066. for a lap theres not much you can do.
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PostPosted: Jul Thu 17, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

horrorcosmic wrote:
Outragexl10 wrote:
DDR2 ram is double data rate as it is... so if you have your ram running at 667 your actually getting 667 x 2 in a single stick of ram...

DDR3 would be 667 x 3 in a single stick but those speeds get even higher...

anyways when you stick in your ram and its in a dual channel mode with DDR2 your really getting... 667 x2 x2 which is all running at a speed of 667... really now a days its not the ram as a bottle neck but the way a cpu handles it all with the front side bus


I know that, i'm just saying that if he plans on upgrading the ram why not go ahead and get the benefit of dual channel. and your absolutely right, bottle neck mainly takes place at the CPU, but if you have the ability then why not use it. Not much you can do about bottle necking at the CPU that comes from a CPU running 1600mhz on a mobo that can only run 1066. for a lap theres not much you can do.


Then why debate about it??? Wink

But the dual-channel makes a little difference. Maybe Horrorcosmic overstated it just a smidge, but there is a noticeable difference.

The next push for speed ought to be getting rid of the Front Side Bus.
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PostPosted: Jul Thu 17, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i think i got it. so its better to just leave as is. cool, save me some bucks too.
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PostPosted: Jul Mon 21, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Branhower wrote:
horrorcosmic wrote:
Outragexl10 wrote:
DDR2 ram is double data rate as it is... so if you have your ram running at 667 your actually getting 667 x 2 in a single stick of ram...

DDR3 would be 667 x 3 in a single stick but those speeds get even higher...

anyways when you stick in your ram and its in a dual channel mode with DDR2 your really getting... 667 x2 x2 which is all running at a speed of 667... really now a days its not the ram as a bottle neck but the way a cpu handles it all with the front side bus


I know that, i'm just saying that if he plans on upgrading the ram why not go ahead and get the benefit of dual channel. and your absolutely right, bottle neck mainly takes place at the CPU, but if you have the ability then why not use it. Not much you can do about bottle necking at the CPU that comes from a CPU running 1600mhz on a mobo that can only run 1066. for a lap theres not much you can do.


Then why debate about it??? Wink

But the dual-channel makes a little difference. Maybe Horrorcosmic overstated it just a smidge, but there is a noticeable difference.

The next push for speed ought to be getting rid of the Front Side Bus.


Yea your prolly right, i might have taken it alittle far lol. but all i'm saying is its something to look into in terms of upgrading.
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PostPosted: Jul Sat 26, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

finally got it !!(actually it was yesterday)

battery life is fucking amazing with 9 cell. 5+ hrs
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PostPosted: Jul Sat 26, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjay07 wrote:
finally got it !!(actually it was yesterday)

battery life is fucking amazing with 9 cell. 5+ hrs


what did i say?? but yeah its pretty damn good, i accidentally left my laptop on becasue i hadn't pressed the button properly, closed the lid, and 10hours later opened the lid and still got about 30mins out of it before it died..
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PostPosted: Jul Sun 27, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bald_gye wrote:
ninjay07 wrote:
finally got it !!(actually it was yesterday)

battery life is fucking amazing with 9 cell. 5+ hrs


what did i say?? but yeah its pretty damn good, i accidentally left my laptop on becasue i hadn't pressed the button properly, closed the lid, and 10hours later opened the lid and still got about 30mins out of it before it died..


what OS you using? coz vista gone hibernate right after you close the lid. and it will turn off(not shut down) itself after awhile.
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PostPosted: Jul Sun 27, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjay07 wrote:
bald_gye wrote:
ninjay07 wrote:
finally got it !!(actually it was yesterday)

battery life is fucking amazing with 9 cell. 5+ hrs


what did i say?? but yeah its pretty damn good, i accidentally left my laptop on becasue i hadn't pressed the button properly, closed the lid, and 10hours later opened the lid and still got about 30mins out of it before it died..


what OS you using? coz vista gone hibernate right after you close the lid. and it will turn off(not shut down) itself after awhile.


Vista, but you can change what it does in the power options
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PostPosted: Jul Sun 27, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bald_gye wrote:
ninjay07 wrote:
bald_gye wrote:
ninjay07 wrote:
finally got it !!(actually it was yesterday)

battery life is fucking amazing with 9 cell. 5+ hrs


what did i say?? but yeah its pretty damn good, i accidentally left my laptop on becasue i hadn't pressed the button properly, closed the lid, and 10hours later opened the lid and still got about 30mins out of it before it died..


what OS you using? coz vista gone hibernate right after you close the lid. and it will turn off(not shut down) itself after awhile.


Vista, but you can change what it does in the power options


you are right. but i havent gone that far with vista yet. aero is cool tho, but rather useless.
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PostPosted: Aug Sat 02, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

intels next chip type/revision... ditches the FSB... you now have a much better quick connect something i think
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