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PostPosted: Dec Tue 18, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: overclocking Reply with quote

can anyone give me some education on overclocking?
i really wanted to get my PC run faster.
but so far its hopeless, because its a Dell, which is, i think, everything is locked
i have a P4 1.7GHz

and i have a acer AMD althon XP 2800+ 2.08GHz, hopefully blow that thing up... jk, i just needed it to run faster!!

and im basically retarded at modifiying computer, but i try to learn.

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PostPosted: Dec Tue 18, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure AMD locked their speeds Sad.

This may be technical, but do you know the motherboard brand that you have?
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PostPosted: Dec Tue 18, 2007 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Branhower wrote:
I'm pretty sure AMD locked their speeds Sad.

This may be technical, but do you know the motherboard brand that you have?


i have no idea, but it said Dell on it. hope that helps

BTW how do you tell what kind of motherboard is it?
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PostPosted: Dec Tue 18, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Dec Tue 18, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you do it with Intels?
I wanted to overclock my Desktop, I have a P4, 2.4GHz.
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PostPosted: Dec Tue 18, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjay07 wrote:
Branhower wrote:
I'm pretty sure AMD locked their speeds Sad.

This may be technical, but do you know the motherboard brand that you have?


i have no idea, but it said Dell on it. hope that helps

BTW how do you tell what kind of motherboard is it?


This is going to sound snotty and condescending, but if you're not sure of the motherboard I wouldn't mess with overclocking it.

That said, I don't think you should waste time trying to overclock a machine you didn't build yourself. Alot of pre-build machines come locked down so you really can't overclock.

And in my opinion, overclocking isn't worth the risk. You do something wrong and you'll smoke your PC.
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PostPosted: Dec Tue 18, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its there anything you could adjust with software?
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PostPosted: Dec Tue 18, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that and over cloaking drains the life of your processor...

over clocking = life < power

but when you can get a $33 celeron to run at 5GHz who cares... lol
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PostPosted: Dec Tue 18, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outragexl10 wrote:
that and over cloaking drains the life of your processor...

over clocking = life < power

but when you can get a $33 celeron to run at 5GHz who cares... lol


That's what I'm sayin'. And overclocking a freakin' expensive processor (Quad Core Extreme for example) will make sure you actually get less processor for the money (by a shortened life).

However, companies that pre-build computers usually don't lock down the BIOS, and that's key to overclocking the processor (HP doesn't, anyway). I got an HP with a 2.33GHz processor overclocked to 3.2GHz no problem. You'll have to boost cooling equipment though.
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PostPosted: Dec Wed 19, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Branhower wrote:
Outragexl10 wrote:
that and over cloaking drains the life of your processor...

over clocking = life < power

but when you can get a $33 celeron to run at 5GHz who cares... lol


That's what I'm sayin'. And overclocking a freakin' expensive processor (Quad Core Extreme for example) will make sure you actually get less processor for the money (by a shortened life).

However, companies that pre-build computers usually don't lock down the BIOS, and that's key to overclocking the processor (HP doesn't, anyway). I got an HP with a 2.33GHz processor overclocked to 3.2GHz no problem. You'll have to boost cooling equipment though.


so what i have to do with my Dell? i'm not going for extreme, 2.1 or 2.3 will be enough... and i dont really care about processor life, i gonna get new computer next summer or winter
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PostPosted: Dec Wed 19, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats 1/3 its total clock speed... i would shoot for like 2.0GHz without worrying about cooling... cause if you overclock it to say 2.3GHz and it gets to hot after 3 minutes its gonna shut down you cpu and it wont start back up till it cools... do that to many times and your cpu will be fried...

if your bios are locked i don't know how to unlock them i never needed to so i don't know... if its unlocked just press like setup or what not when booting and see if you can do it from there...
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PostPosted: Dec Wed 19, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When was your computer made? The BIOS key for newer computers is the Delete Key. It's pretty technical.
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PostPosted: Dec Wed 19, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outragexl10 wrote:

if your bios are locked i don't know how to unlock them i never needed to so i don't know... if its unlocked just press like setup or what not when booting and see if you can do it from there...


setup in control panel? i just gonna restart

Outragexl10 wrote:
When was your computer made? The BIOS key for newer computers is the Delete Key. It's pretty technical.


pretty damn old


[EDIT]

both of my computer are locked in setup Crying or Very sad
anything else i could try?

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PostPosted: Dec Wed 19, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no overclocking anything that has anything to do with dell..unless it is the xps desktop that was built for it. no no no no no. don't do it! no hacked bios just don't try. and ninjay07, you can't put an amd into a intel motherboard socket Sad
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PostPosted: Dec Wed 19, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zuneary bypass wrote:
no overclocking anything that has anything to do with dell..unless it is the xps desktop that was built for it. no no no no no. don't do it! no hacked bios just don't try. and ninjay07, you can't put an amd into a intel motherboard socket Sad


i know that, i have two PCs.




BTW what OEM mean?
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